The Tale of the Ghost Bro (Camp John Waters 2019)
From September 13th (Friday the 13th!), 2019. I got to tell a ghost story at Camp John Waters (in front of the Pope of Trash himself!), and now I’m posting it here for your spooky filthy enjoyments. Some of it NSFW. And now…
The Tale of the Ghost Bro…
Episode 13: Racism Booth / Forgotten White Men / Assault Rifle Ownership
I revisit “The Hate Project: Episode 18” broadcast on MLK Day January 21st, 2013. I pitch a business idea for booths that allow people to pay to say racist words in private. African-American sports radio host NajRadio offers sympathetic perspective on white men who are left behind, and feel they have no access to the white privilege often attributed to them, but we also talk about the powerful people who take advantage of them. Resident Klansman Dragon 1488 calls in, offers a very reasonable explanation on why regular citizens should not be allowed to own assault rifles, surprising given his ideology and membership of a hate group. I offer commentary at the very beginning reflecting on these conversations with discussion on recent events such as the shooting in Thousand Oaks, CA and the shooting of Jemel Roberson in Chicago.
Email: paradoxofcivility@gmail.com
Twitter: @civilpodcast
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/paradoxofcivility/
References from episode:
Thousand Oaks gunman Ian David Long: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/11/08/ian-long-gunman-thousand-oaks-california-borderline-bar-grill/1928231002/
Ticking Time Bomb, sexual and physical assault: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/high-school-coach-says-california-gunman-ian-long-was-ticking-n935061
Gunman’s social media during massacre: https://abc7.com/thousand-oaks-gunman-posted-to-social-media-during-attack/4655827/
Don’t blame PTSD: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/08/thousand-oaks-shooter-experts-caution-against-blaming-ptsd-military-mass-shooting/1934942002/
NRA fights Doctors: https://www.npr.org/2018/11/11/666762890/after-nra-mocks-doctors-physicians-reply-this-is-our-lane
Jemel Roberson senseless murder: https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2018/11/12/robbins-shooting-security-guard-jemel-roberson-midlothian-police-officer-mannys-luxury-lounge/
NRA silent about Jemel Roberson and other black good guys with guns: https://www.themarysue.com/a-good-with-a-gun-killed/
2013 gun show injuries: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/5-injured-in-firearm-accidents-at-saturday-gun-shows/
Music:
Gnossienne no. 1 by International Surrealist Bulletinis licensed under a CC0 1.0 Universal License.
Remedy for Melancholy by Kai Engel is licensed under a Attribution License.
Episode 12: The Call is Coming from Inside Our Borders / Please VOTE
I revisit “The Hate Project: Episode 17” released on January 7th 2013. There is a dialogue between Neo-Nazi McBride and African-American sports radio host NajRadio that ends up being contentious but respectful. McBride espouses talking points about immigrants attempting to come to the U.S. that have existed within hate groups for a long time, but I discuss how these viewpoints have found concrete legitimacy within the mainstream right-wing ecosystem all the way up to the White House. I also discuss current domestic hate terrorism and the actual death and damage connected to it. Also, be sure to vote.
Email: paradoxofcivility@gmail.com
Twitter: @civilpodcast
References from episode:
Trump, Conspiracy Theories about Caravan, Deadly Hate: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/us/politics/caravan-trump-shooting-elections.html
Trump calls Caravan an invasion: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/413624-trump-calls-migrant-caravan-an-invasion
The Pentagon and Trump sending U.S. Military to Southern Border: https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/02/politics/white-house-pentagon-troops-border/index.html
Militia groups headed to the Southern Border:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-militia-groups-head-to-border-stirred-by-trumps-call-to-arms/2018/11/03/ff96826c-decf-11e8-b3f0-62607289efee_story.html?utm_term=.22b1f3a3c2f6
Refugee Caravan: https://www.thenation.com/article/refugee-caravan-honduras-mexico/
Crisis and Honduras and Caravan: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/12/04/the-crisis-in-honduras-should-matter-to-the-u-s/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.54b340f5d50c
Hate Crimes in NYC:
Union Temple in Brooklyn:https://www.amny.com/news/brooklyn-anti-semitism-1.22769440
African Burial Ground: https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/11/05/african-burial-ground-vandalism/
More hate crimes: https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/11/04/hate-crime-african-burial-ground-monument-manhattan-swastikas-brooklyn/
Tallahassee right-wing incel shooter: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/tallahassee-yoga-shooter-incel-far-right-misogyny-video
The Alt-right is killing people:
https://www.splcenter.org/20180205/alt-right-killing-people?fbclid=IwAR3kraZ3GDCVbmYLvEcwfhi5UKbE4d5qmsa7NuECJlyRk73Hlj8jxLrrxkI#.W9S7nHTcAP0.facebook
Music:
Gnossienne no. 1 by International Surrealist Bulletinis licensed under a CC0 1.0 Universal License.
Remedy for Melancholy by Kai Engel is licensed under a Attribution License.
CW: Hate speech/language, child molestation, sexual abuse
Revisiting “The Hate Project, Ep. 16” which was broadcast on Christmas Eve 2012. I gave Martin Lindstedt, pastor in the Christian Identity movement, an uninterrupted interview. It’s an often incoherent dialogue. Lindstedt describes his dysfunctional family background, embracing white supremacy in the Christian Identity movement, and the allegations against him as a child molester of his grandson. He specifically blames the state for stealing his grandchildren and family, and this serves as justification for wanting a civil war, and his welcoming of carnage and chaos in destroying our civilization as we know it. This one is hard, because in trying to foster a real in-depth dialogue in order to understand hate and hate groups, it feels like I just gave a platform to a pedophile white supremacist without the value of edification. However, I did share this interview from the past to allow people to make connections between the talking points espoused by a fringe lunatic like Lindstedt and what we are hearing in America from the current Presidential administration and the right-wing conservative ecosphere.
References from episode:
Attacks inspired by Trump: https://theintercept.com/2018/10/27/here-is-a-list-of-far-right-attackers-trump-inspired-cesar-sayoc-wasnt-the-first-and-wont-be-the-last/
Cesar Sayoc, #MAGABomber: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/10/26/who-cesar-sayoc-florida-man-arrested-bomb-like-devices/1774140002/
Conspiracy theories of George Soros and Migrant Caravans: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/a-conspiracy-theory-about-george-soros-and-a-migrant-caravan-inspired-horror/2018/10/28/52df587e-dae6-11e8-b732-3c72cbf131f2_story.html?utm_term=.80e94cf75da4&noredirect=on
Anti-Black Hate Execution in Kentucky 10/24/18: https://apnews.com/c9ab76164f0a4461a2372dbacb5f291d
Anti-Semitic Hate Massacre in Pittsburgh 10/27/18:https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/10/28/victims-expected-be-named-after-killed-deadliest-attack-jews-us-history/?utm_term=.8fa4c086d47c
Gab.ai white supremacist sanctuary: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2018/10/28/how-gab-became-white-supremacist-sanctuary-before-it-was-linked-pittsburgh-suspect/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.dea6926cf872
Trump advocation for armed guards in synagogue: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-laments-hate-our-country-after-synagogue-murders-says-armed-n925216?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma
“The Devil’s Workshop” Novel: https://www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-688-16618-2
Any comments, feedback, questions…
Email: paradoxofcivility@gmail.com
Twitter: @civilpodcast
Music:
Gnossienne no. 1 by International Surrealist Bulletin is licensed under a CC0 1.0 Universal License.
Remedy for Melancholy by Kai Engel is licensed under a Attribution License.
CW: Hate Speech/Language
At the top, I go off about Gavin Mcinnes’s hate gang Proud Boys and the violence they were involved in both in NYC and Portland on Oct 12-13, 2018. I revisit “The Hate Project Episode 15” in which I interview Martin Lindstedt, unhinged pastor, possible pedo. He mentions working with Louis Beam, a figure that paved a path for the current alt-right. A member of the Neo-Nazi national socialist movement calls in from Delaware, discusses his Pagan beliefs and how he became a white nationalist. Fake George Takei drops the mask, reveals he used to be involved in the white nationalist movement. Najradio calls back in, debunks some misinformation from the white nationalists.
References from episode:
Louis Beam, godfather of the alt-right : https://timeline.com/louis-beam-white-supremacy-history-20d028315d
Proud Boys NYC 10/12/2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7-K4-ryBSE
Proud Boys in Portland 10/13/2018:https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2018/10/13/portland-streets-descend-into-bedlam-again-as-proud-boys-and-antifascists-maul-each-other/?fbclid=IwAR071sKsqDhSW_thWbw4dIx_Flv_YV7eVxkakDzFjiMeP_0hwpoZmQWO-EM
Proud Boys and the GOP fascism creep: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/proud-boys-republican-party-fascist-creep_us_5bc7b37de4b055bc947d2a8c
Proud Boys with Skinheads: https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/10/13/far-right-skinheads-join-proud-boys-assaulting-protesters-new-york-city-following-gavin
Gavin Mcinnes and NYPD support: https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2018/10/15/proud-boys-founder-gavin-mcinnes-i-have-lot-support-nypd-and-i-very-much-appreciate/221681
McInnes, Molyneux, and 4chan: Investigating pathways to the alt-right https://www.splcenter.org/20180419/mcinnes-molyneux-and-4chan-investigating-pathways-alt-right
Transgender erasure under Trump: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/21/us/politics/transgender-trump-administration-sex-definition.html
David Lane: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Lane_(white_supremacist)
Christian Identity dual seed-line theory: https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounders/christian-identity
Any comments, feedback, questions…
Email: paradoxofcivility@gmail.com
Twitter: @civilpodcast
Music:
Gnossienne no. 1 by International Surrealist Bulletinis licensed under a CC0 1.0 Universal License.
Remedy for Melancholy by Kai Engel is licensed under a Attribution License.
Revisiting “The Hate Project 14” which aired on December 10th, 2012. My guest co-host was Roman (who you can hear on Paradox of Civility Episode 5). The klansman Dragon1488 calls back in, Roman is able to challenge him in a peaceful and intelligent manner. Dragon describes how he thinks gay people are living a life of evil, yet he knows some gay people and likes them. He continues to demonstrate insight into socio-economic political machinations, yet chooses hate even though it is part of the problem.
References from episode:
The Weekly Review (Roman’s show): https://www.patreon.com/WeeklyRev
Record number of white nationalists running for elected office: https://www.businessinsider.com/white-nationalists-running-for-office-in-2018-2018-5
Hate Rally in Rhode Island on 10/6/2018: https://upriseri.com/news/2018-10-07-ocean-state-against-hate/
Georgetown Prep / Brett Kavanaugh: https://theestablishment.co/i-went-to-kavanaughs-alma-mater-georgetown-prep-and-it-was-a-case-study-in-misogyny/
“Grow some balls” joke: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/betty-white-grow-some-balls/
Lewis Lattimer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Howard_Latimer
Any comments, feedback, questions…
Email: paradoxofcivility@gmail.com
Twitter: @civilpodcast
Music:
Gnossienne no. 1 by International Surrealist Bulletinis licensed under a CC0 1.0 Universal License.
Remedy for Melancholy by Kai Engel is licensed under a Attribution License.
Revisiting “The Hate Project” which aired on 11/12/2012. This episode features two long phone conversations. The first is with Dragon1488, the resident klansman. He demonstrates a very insightful understanding of racism and the honest mentality of white people, but still can’t help reverting to being racist. Then his friend EdClanofChattan calls in, gives revisionist version of slavery, and he also shares how he began to come to his white supremacist worldview from a comment made by his father. The klansman talks about his wife, and how he would quit the klan if she wanted him to. I play some clips from Tucker Carlson tonight which mirror some themes from these phone calls. Both maintain a veneer of intellectual discussion, but then slip into raw hatred. Enjoy.
References from episode:
Tucker Carlson anti-diversity: https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2018/09/07/tucker-carlson-attacks-american-diversity/221247
Ann Coulter on Tucker Carlson re: Brett Kavanaugh: http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2018/09/18/ann-coulter-on-lefts-meltdown-over-kavanaugh-allegation-will-carter-page-finally-learn-why-fbi-spied-on-him.html
Alt-right trolling with false symbols: https://www.wired.com/2017/05/alt-rights-newest-ploy-trolling-false-symbols/
Poor state of how American schools teach about slavery: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2018/02/03/dont-know-much-about-history-a-disturbing-new-report-on-how-poorly-schools-teach-american-slavery/?utm_term=.d1bb013cbec0
No, I will not debate you: https://longreads.com/2018/09/18/no-i-will-not-debate-you
Any comments, feedback, questions…
Email: paradoxofcivility@gmail.com
Twitter: @civilpodcast
Music:
Gnossienne no. 1 by International Surrealist Bulletinis licensed under a CC0 1.0 Universal License.
Remedy for Melancholy by Kai Engel is licensed under a Attribution License.
Revisiting “The Hate Project - Episode 12” - The regular klansman calls back in, a new caller - an African-American man named Najradio - debates the klansman on many of his statements. The conversation takes on a wide range of topics including how the klansman used to like 80s rap groups and currently (in 2012) enjoys Tyler Perry movies, diversity in crops, black invention, class struggle and the failures of both political parties, and more. I offer commentary before and after the episode.
References from episode:
Passports denied to Americans: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/us-is-denying-passports-to-americans-along-the-border-throwing-their-citizenship-into-question/2018/08/29/1d630e84-a0da-11e8-a3dd-2a1991f075d5_story.html?utm_term=.3eb2c54c9ebf
Passports denied to Jews in Germany: https://www.ushmm.org/learn/timeline-of-events/1933-1938/reich-ministry-of-the-interior-invalidates-all-german-passports-held-by-jew
Bank of America freezing accounts: https://www.sacbee.com/news/business/article217567300.html
Chase and J.P. Morgan freezing accounts during WWII: https://www.nytimes.com/1998/12/24/business/chase-and-morgan-sued-over-jewish-assets.html
Ex-DHS Immigration Policy Analyst with White Nationalist ties: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/emails-link-former-dhs-policy-analyst-to-white-nationalists/568843/
Black inventors:https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/with-patents-or-without-black-inventors-reshaped-american-industry-180962201/
Any comments, feedback, questions…
Email: paradoxofcivility@gmail.com
Twitter: @civilpodcast
Music:
Gnossienne no. 1 by International Surrealist Bulletinis licensed under a CC0 1.0 Universal License.
Remedy for Melancholy by Kai Engel is licensed under a Attribution License.
CW: Hate Speech / Slurs
At the top of the show - I talk about current events, citing the articles below. Donald Trump has mainstreamed a fringe white nationalist talking point.
“Hate Project” Episode 11 clips - Recorded shortly after Hurricane Sandy. Guest co-host with Red Sonya, from Kentucky who explains how she escaped racist indoctrination from her parents and community. The Klansman, now calling himself Dragon1488, calls back in. He says he is motivated by his love of his own race, but still can’t help sounding hateful. A nurse, who also wears the 1488 handle calls in, she says her white pride is also motivated by loving her own race. Fake George Takei calls in, revealing a raging racist and anti-Semitic side.
I tried, friends. I tried to reach out.
References from episode:
Donald Trump tweets white genocide talking point: https://www.salon.com/2018/08/27/donald-trumps-white-genocide-rhetoric-a-dangerous-escalation-of-racism/#.W4RK596cwZs.email
Murders of farmers in South Africa at a 20 year low: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/27/murders-of-farmers-in-south-africa-at-20-year-low-research-shows
Dangerous myth of South Africa white genocide: https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/08/23/dangerous-myth-white-genocide-south-africa
Doctor in Bronx on white nationalist site: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/bronx/ny-news-bronx-doctor-sorry-white-nationalism-20180727-story.html
NYC Upper West Side parents oppose desegregating schools: http://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2018/04/25/push-to-boost-middle-school-diversity-upsets-some-uws-parents-#
Any comments, feedback, questions…
Email: paradoxofcivility@gmail.com
Twitter: @civilpodcast
Music:
Gnossienne no. 1 by International Surrealist Bulletinis licensed under a CC0 1.0 Universal License.
Remedy for Melancholy by Kai Engel is licensed under a Attribution License.
This episode features two clips from Episode 5 & Episode 9, respectively, of “The Hate Project”. Ep. 5 features a phone conversation with a friend named Roman in which we touch on social justice, the sources of our own anger, why the right-wing gets its way, my experience growing up Indian in Texas.
Episode 9 features a phone call from a real member of the Ku Klux Klan, the first call of many throughout “The Hate Project”. Before that, it’s a phone call from someone impersonating George Takei. To complicate matters, someone who hosts a show called “Michigan Radio Geeks” calls in and tries to bond with fake Takei while I try to facilitate a conversation with the klansman. I offer commentary and reflection before and after these phone calls.
References from episode:
Accidental Curiosity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7fh5J_mo5E
NPR & Jason Kessler treatment: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2018/08/11/npr-teaches-listeners-on-the-proper-care-and-feeding-of-white-nationalists/?utm_term=.bae9c032a76e&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1
Klansman at the African-American Museum: https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/10/us/kkk-imperial-wizard-charlottesville/index.html
Missouri Republican: https://www.jta.org/2018/08/10/top-headlines/missouri-republican-said-hitler-right-wins-state-house-primary#.W22-HRCgSac.twitter
Any comments, feedback, questions…
Email: paradoxofcivility@gmail.com
Twitter: @civilpodcast
Music:
Gnossienne no. 1 by International Surrealist Bulletinis licensed under a CC0 1.0 Universal License.
Remedy for Melancholy by Kai Engel is licensed under a Attribution License.